I know. You’re super awesome and your DPS is of titanic proportions and everyone should be made aware of this fact. Repeatedly. However, you need to stop spamming Recount meters. Like, yesterday. I don’t care if you’re in the process of leveling and make your way into the occasional instance group along the way or if you’re at the level cap and running with the leetest of the leet, super mega ultra raiders. You need to stop spamming Recount! You may be having a battle of epic proportions for the top spot on the meters with another player, both gritting your teeth and mashing cooldown after cooldown, but you need to stop spamming Recount. In case you missed it, allow me to repeat myself: YOU NEED TO STOP SPAMMING RECOUNT.
I Hope You Die
Honestly, I really do. If you’re a Recount spammer, you should be strapped to a gurney and beaten with hammers. Allow me to explain why.
First, you need to understand a very basic premise here. Recount is not a new add-on. To the best of my recollection, it’s been around since at least the start of The Burning Crusade, if not before that. (At least, this specific add-on. Other damage meters existed prior to the release of Recount, so the concept itself is surely not new. They’ve probably existed in-game longer than you have.) Because Recount and other similar damage meters have been around for so long, chances are very good that everyone already has it. In other words: they can see the meters themselves.
Second, people who don’t already have Recount probably don’t have it for a reason. Either they don’t care or just don’t want to see it. Either way, they’ve made a conscious decision not to watch meters like a hawk, and don’t need you spamming them.
Third, you’re an irritant to everyone around you. Having taken a quick poll on Twitter the other day, it was unanimously agreed upon that Recount spammers are agents of the underworld and should be eradicated on sight at the molecular level. (Okay, so it wasn’t an official poll and I paraphrased slightly, but you get the gist. It’s frowned upon.)
What You Need to Understand
You’re annoying. Truly. People view you in the same light as they do gold spammers: something to be at best ignored or at worst wiped from the face of the earth for all eternity. You’ve probably made your way onto countless ignore lists via your Recount reporting antics and don’t even know it.
You’re filling people’s chatboxes with information they don’t need and don’t want. If someone were spamming giant “LOL!” macros at you, would you be thrilled to have that person around? Probably not. Your group mates view your Recount spam with the same amount of enthusiasm. You could be clearing someone’s chat window of really important, vital information like Deadly Boss Mods boss instructions or ERP whispers from their eSweetie. No one appreciates that, buddy.
How Not to Be a Douchebag
It’s true. Sometimes, people who don’t have Recount will ask you to post the information. This is not a “get out of jail free” card to go back to doing as you please.
If people don’t have Recount and want to know how they’re doing on the meters, they will ask.
Reread that last sentence. Internalize it. Be one with it, in a zen-like fashion.
Now, to take that notion a step further: someone asking for Recount information is not an invitation to spam it whenever you feel like it.
Reread that too, just for good measure.
If someone asks for Recount information, rather than spam your entire group, send it as a whisper to the individual who requested the information. ONE TIME. If they want an update, they’ll ask you again later and you can whisper it to them again.
Fight the Urge
I know you want to rub it in that Ret Pally’s face that your DPS is vastly superior. I know. We all feel that way. However, you need to fight the urge so that you can avoid looking like a window-licker to all and sundry. Spamming Recount will alienate you from your peers and you’ll have all the popularity of a leper gnome. Trust me.
- Don’t post Recount numbers in group or raid chat.
- Don’t post Recount numbers ever, unless someone specifically asks you to.
- If someone asks you to post Recount numbers, whisper them to the individual.
If you can follow those three simple rules, your groupmates won’t hate you. At least not for that. They may hate you for some other reason, but at least it won’t be for spamming Recount. I can’t be held accountable for any of the other weird stuff you decide to do.
Happy Hunting!
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I think the worst of the worst are the people who post Recount and then leave the group about two seconds later without saying a word.
Le sigh.
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Lassirra, very well put! I’m so very glad to see someone finally speaking up about this.
If the recount spammers don’t die, then me hopes the fleas of a thousand Kodos infests their armpits!! =)
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I remember one guy when I was in VoA pug, he came out first and was spamming chat to who has dmg meters so I whispered him the list when he got it he replied that for most of the fight he was tied with the second but came close first at the end?
Kind of strange that he knows how his dps was doing in the middle of the fight but not after ^^
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I use Recount, but more for my benefit than others. The only time I bother to post it to a party is when I am running with RL friends.
People lose out to the fun factor with the spamming of recount and the misinterpretation of information.
Nice idea on the whisper. I had not thought of that one.
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I agree that spamming recount in raids is extremely annoying, especially when people decide to do it in the middle of loot. While the information is important and I love being at or near the top for bragging rights, I don’t ever post my meters unless I’m asked to or, as Nochecazador said above, I’m with some friends. When you’re with friends it’s quite fun to do an instance and show meters right after so you can talk shit to each other over vent about it. That, and by being pushed to do better by people who will talk shit if they do better than you, you learn how to play well extremely fast.
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I think I only put a recount-report unasked once into partychat. It was heroic SP, and two dps where repoting recount a few times…but after 10 minutes in they stopped…
After the last boss down, I showed recount to everyone… I was on top… I was the Tank /facepalm
Spamming recount normally says a lot about the players…
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I was in a 5 man UK group (normal) where this one lock was spamming recount incessantly. Thing is, he never reset it when we started, so they weren’t even right. I grit my teeth and put up with it for the entire run because I like to finish things with a minimum of drama. But after we finished I passive aggressively posted the real meters (the ones with me on top and him on bottom, to be petty) and advice that if you’re going to spam meters, at least be accurate.
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As one of the original Recount Spam haters, I totally feel you here. Back when the addon was first rising to prominence as a raid utility (yay, pie charts, statistics!!), I would come down hard and fast on people who linked their recount in my raid or party in any channel that would be considered public — that is, anything other than a whisper.
Sure, it’s a big block of text that’s annoying.
Sure, it’s a great way to epeen.
But at the end of the day, I just don’t care. Really. You could do a BILLION DPS and I wouldn’t give two hoots, let alone one. You’re either doing your job or you’re not. End of story. If through Recount you can identify a problem and more importantly a solution to said problem, address it. But if you can’t fix it, keep your damn mouth shut. Linking recount won’t get you anywhere.
I’ve found a somewhat effective way to nip the problem in the bud. In my guild, they’re commonly called “damage peters” by the leadership, and it seems to have stuck. This kind of language quickly establishes a negative to recount linking, as in YOU DON’T WANT TO BE THAT GUY. First public linking gets a public rebuke from me. The second one, well, it’s never gotten that far.
Recount’s a great tool, if used properly. The problem that arises is: what do you get when a tool uses a tool?
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We have a very explicit Guild Policy that says that Recount spam will not be tolerated. Period. You only have to guild kick one person, one time, to set an example
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Recount is handy, I find, for my own personal use. Especially for changes of gear, gems, etc. Run VH Hc or any other instance, but I find doing the same one keeps a level start point. Then I can check how the gear change affected my dps.
We had a druid in guild that played to Recount, happy to top the meters but no idea how to play in a group. Which is why hunters and mages can look bad on recount often, cos we’re busy doing c/c, saving the healer from loose adds and a host of other stuff.
So like all tools it is useful, but in the right hands, and yes I agree, anyone who announces the Recount score should be taken into a field and shot.
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Amen to this.
If it’s not recount, it’s that damn gearscore that people are going ape over >:|
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As a raid leader, when we bring in Puggers, I explicitly state, anyone spamming meters will be invited, very promtly to leave. I also explain why. I don’t give a rat’s you-know-what about who did what dps or hps wise. What I care about is did you do your damn job. Let’s look at Gluth: the kiters are not going to do well dps wise, but someone who is basically on Gluth will. Doesn’t matter that I have my best DPS on kite duty. The twerp huntard (or mage, or warlock or what the hell ever) that comes out on top inevitably says “HEY LOOK, I BEAT XYZ” To which I say, why didn’t you volley the zombies? And XYZ did their job, which did not include dpsing the boss. Same with healers that snipe heals. Sniping heals just wastes everyone’s mana, and doesn’t keep people alive.
Wow-heroes is good for getting info when you are pulling Puggers into a raid, but people going “I’m the best geared xxx on the server” just makes me mad. Gear doesn’t make the player. Skill does.
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Hear hear, I agree immensely.
I hate how you join a group that seems to be obsessed with dps meters since I can’t top them currently and they forget that I buff their dps output with my Totems too.
*cries and laments*
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What really gets under my skin are the ones riding the top and they know it yet ask others to post so they can seem to be less bragging cause others are posting.
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Yeah, it’s annoying. What my guild did is make a “Kingshipmeters” channel, so anyone that wanted to have the meters after a fight could /join it, and anyone that didn’t want the meters was free to enjoy the raid without being spammed. Working pretty well so far. ‘course, doesn’t stop pugs.
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